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The idea grew on me and I said okay. I should let it be known that you helped us out for the first issue by spell checking it and performing some editing and critique. But we were only able to produce 4 issues since it was difficult in getting quality non-plagiarized or non-highly paraphrased material. After the third issue, I realized that I was probably not doing anyone any favors by exposing security holes and weaknesses in systems.

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Is there anyone specifically that you want to say a few things to? To all those who subscribe to the "Once a thief, always a thief" mentality and to those few die-hard law people who would love to get their hands on me and other ex-hackers: Don't bother, people are basically good and can be "rehabilitated" without going to prison.

I could understand it a little better when the reason was to check out others to make sure they were not feds. I never compiled lists of who I talked to with anything except their handle, first name, and phone number. I never CNA'd them for their last names, or tried to find out where they worked. But some guys just had to know everything about everyone.

Don't they have anything better to do? I was careful yes, but not to the point of invading everyone's privacy especially when the person stated they just wanted to be left alone. I left an Internet mailing address at the beginning of this Pro-Phile so people can contact me.

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I never did it and will never understand why people do it. Besides, it's no great accomplishment to find people these days. The ways of getting information are numerous and many are legal, so how much skill does it really take to get someone's info? Almost none. Anyone can do it Don't they realize there are better and easier ways of going about whatever they are doing? Don't they realize that the technology to CATCH you is such that you have lost the fight before you even get started?

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If it weren't for hackers, TRW would still be screwing people over worse than they do now and would have never apologized for not correcting invalid credit information.

And of course the question that no Phrack Pro-Phile does without Of the general population of phreaks you have met, would you consider most phreaks, if any, to be Meet bbw to fuck Concord hot women Boise Idaho geeks? Absolutely NOT. I don't judge people on how they look anymore yes I used to.

As The Mentor so eloquently put it in his Hacker Manifesto Phrack 7 and again in Phrack 14of which this is, but a lame paraphrase, it's more important to relate to people on what they know and on their ideas than what they look like or what color Ladies want nsa New haven Vermont 5472 skin is, etc. And the vast majority have non-geeky ideas. Thanks for your time, Lex. Thank you for letting me ramble on for so long. A lot of hacking any computer on a network is being able to gather information about the machine and its vulnerabilities.

This file is about using the available resources on the Internet network in order to gain important information about any perspective sites. A large amount of information has been printed in Phrack recently about the Internet, most of it copied straight from manuals and in my opinion lacking hacking flair. Therefore, I'm going to take you straight into the heart of the heart of the matter with this file on acquiring information!

Now, the Internet is notorious for not having an instruction manual. Most people who find out what the Internet is learn from their friends. Now, the Internet is probably the largest free network in existence. In fact, it's a hacker's paradise! Unfortunately, you have to know Mesa girls that fuck "public" sites on the network before you can use them.

Likewise, how are you going to hack an organization if you don't know any machines on it? Sort of like trying to complain to Packard-Bell about your computer equipment not working when the bastards don't supply their name, address, or phone number.

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NIC's purpose is simply to keep track of all the network connections, fields, domains, and hosts that people wish to be told about. To connect to NIC, you would issue a command from your Internet connected machine similar to this: The message you will get will be similar to this: Essentially, since NIC is just a great big telephone book, we need to let our fingers to the walking. Type "? Okay, now we are in the database.

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This stands to reason since Unisys deals mostly in military computer equipment. Since it is a secretive military group, you'd figure an outsider shouldn't be able to gain much information about them.